Baja Air Con.

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Baja Air Con.

Postby bajabone » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:57 am

After spending this week on Fraser my wife has decided its time for air con in the Baja or replace bug with Cruiser or Hilux !!! Well after all the yelling had stopped (from myself)
I have decided that a Ej22 air conditioned Baja would be the solution. I have a complete subi liberty donor at home so am thinking of using as much factory liberty parts as possible and maybe a "speedy air spares" under dash hot rod unit. Can anyone shine some light on the most straight forward air con solution?
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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby Parj » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:54 am

Yeah, get a JEEP, then switch on the AC
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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby shane2610 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:46 pm

Yea I just put a under dash ac in my 72 EJ powered beettle and it works really good.
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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby bajabone » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:11 pm

shane2610 wrote:Yea I just put a under dash ac in my 72 EJ powered beettle and it works really good.
Thanks Shane, can you PM your ph number. Cheers mate.
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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby Smiley » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:30 pm

Have you seen the setup that Keith from Mackay is running in his? It's quite simple and he said it works great. Someone might have some pictures of it from Buggyfest or Keith might chime in and throw a few up.

I'm going to be running an underdash unit in mine. I can give you the part numbers etc if you want. There should be a picture of it somewhere in my build thread.



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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby Smiley » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:51 pm

Scratch that I found it.


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Only thing I am doing to help it fit better is removing the hump on the underside of that dash and making it completely flat underneath. That might be a little harder for you with a complete car to work it into.


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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby bajabone » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:19 am

Cutting the underside of the dash is a good idea smiley, thanks. Its amazing what you can do with a grinder in a short period of time. Is that unit going into yours and what brand is it?
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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby Smiley » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:31 am

bajabone wrote:Cutting the underside of the dash is a good idea smiley, thanks. Its amazing what you can do with a grinder in a short period of time. Is that unit going into yours and what brand is it?
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Hey mate. The unit is a generic aftermarket unit. Part number EVX217 from Ashdowns. You should be able to order it through Repco. I can't remember the price.
Depth - 317mm
Height - 140mm
Width - 393mm
4x 62mm outlet ducts.
Unit is rated at 14850 BTUs

I spent a while searching and this is the best unit I came up with as far as size and output to fit in and cool a Bug. My plans was to have 2 outlets on the front just under the dash, one ducted up into the factory vents to demist the windscreen and one outlet facing down onto the pedals (cause I like having chilled feet :D )

Other things to consider.
You want to have the largest condenser you can fit, within reason obviously. Aircon doesn't actually work by cooling, it works by moving heat from the inside of the car to the outside. The larger the condenser on the outside, the more heat it will be able to shed, even on the hot day.

Do you know what size the Subie compressor is? probably around 100-120cc I'm guessing?

The unit I bought is 14850 BTUs (British thermal unit, is a measurement of energy). Most cars range from around 11000-12000 for the likes of small hatchbacks, up to around 18000 for full size sedans. I figured 14000-15000 is a nice sweet spot in the middle which will perform well in any climate. I'm found some smaller cars to be lacking in the aircon grunt department and I didn't want to fit an inadequate system. Especially if you're blasting around Fraser or doing a Simpson desert crossing.
An 18000 BTU unit would be more suited to a Bus.

Hope this helps Shane, if you have more questions fire away!


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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby bajabone » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:33 pm

Thanks Daniel, leave it with me and I"ll put my thinking cap on !
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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby Lovebuggy » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:18 pm

Did you look at any of the vintage air stuff -http://www.vintageair.com/index.asp or hot rod air http://www.hotrodair.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=108/category...

They normally can do heater/Cooler setups which sound much more appealing. BlueV2 should be able to comment.

Alternatively - Wes fitted AC to his Baja using the MX6 stuff that he cut and fibreglassed up to fit. You might be able to do something similar. The Thread does live on the internet somewhere, but I couldn't find it.
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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby bajabone » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:54 pm

Lovebuggy wrote:Did you look at any of the vintage air stuff -http://www.vintageair.com/index.asp or hot rod air http://www.hotrodair.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=108/category...

They normally can do heater/Cooler setups which sound much more appealing. BlueV2 should be able to comment.

Alternatively - Wes fitted AC to his Baja using the MX6 stuff that he cut and fibreglassed up to fit. You might be able to do something similar. The Thread does live on the internet somewhere, but I couldn't find it.
Thanks Lovebuggy. Will keep looking at idea's. On a side note, Where is Wes these days ?? I have never seen his baja on the beach ever in the last 6 odd years!!
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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby BlueV2 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:01 pm

Yeah if you are going to the effort of installing AC then make it a heater as well, its hardly anymore work. The main bit of work is the AC setup. I used the Hotrodair stuff but that seems to have disappeared lately. Vintageair seems to have good stuff and will work as well as the hotrodair stuff that I have. The heater and AC in my buggy work very well and in a sealed Baja bug would work even better.
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Re: Baja Air Con.

Postby Lovebuggy » Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:49 am

Alternatively - Wes fitted AC to his Baja using the MX6 stuff that he cut and fibreglassed up to fit. You might be able to do something similar. The Thread does live on the internet somewhere, but I couldn't find it.


Found it - http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=45239
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